Occasionally I'll pluck up the courage to conduct an interview, luckily all the subjects so far have been really good interviewees who've helped ensure that I don't look too far out of my depth. Straps vocalist, Johnny Grant (aka Jock Strap), certainly put in the time and effort to help produce what I think is a pretty decent effort (although one day I'll work out how to make it look more professional!) so my thanks go out to him......
The band formed in 1977. was this as a result of seeing punk bands suddenly
springing up on every street corner? did you think i can do that better and what sort of music
did you like before punk emerged?
The band formed in late 77 while I was still in Glasgow, they had a singer
called Howard Jackson, but they only done one gig
in a school hall i think it was. Then when I arrived from Glasgow he was
letting the band down by not turning up to
rehearsals etc so Dave sacked him and asked me if I would like to give it
a go on vocals. I had never sang before, but
thought to myself , how hard can it be to shout down a mic? I had
already been playing bass for about a year after hearing
the stranglers. And as you asked about who I listened to before punk, I
had a keen interest in music all though my childhood, bands like the
beatles etc as a kid, but just before punk I liked Thin Lizzy, Bowie, iggy
and the new york dolls.
you shared a stage with some top name bands who were enjoying chart success like the damned, sham 69, slf, adam and the ants, uk subs etc. was it all one big happy punk family with everyone helping and encouraging one another or was there a sense of us and them between the bands that were getting on top of the pops and those that weren't quite getting the break that catapulted them onto the nation's tv screens? did you want fame and fortune?
That's a very good question. I think for me personally when I first
became involved with music . I was just happy to be playing with some of
my heroes ,like The Damned , but as time went on and I found myself
recording with the likes of Jah Wobble,
Jimmy Pursey and Rat Scabies to name a few I realised I was missing
out on the things they were enjoying and couldn't
really figure out why. At first I thought I was maybe not that good a
vocalist,but was constantly told otherwise by respected
musicians. So I guess I was a bit bitter underneath as i think we were
under rated, but I'm not the type of person to moan
about poor me ,so I've just got on with it over the years . I would say
though that there's a lot of jealousy in punk rock and
not much help from fellow musicians. But of course no one would admit
to that, for instance I regularly post on my facebook
group, Punks Reunited, lots of artists' material usually via youtube or
sound cloud with praise of what a good track this might
be. But it seems when I post songs it's very rarely that a musician from
another band on the page will praise it. Yes there's
a lot of jealousy out there among bands. I think John Lydon has spoke
about this before regarding the big 4 bands at the
time. As for me wanting to be famous, no, but I feel the straps were
largely ignored outside London due to bad management
and us never having an agent. i see bands all the time flying off to
Europe or the USA , and I still wonder why we never got to
do that. I also find it disturbing how some so called punk bands can
command 10 grand per show and offer the support band a few hundred
quid. If the money was distributed a bit more fairly, then we as a
bandwould have recorded a lot more. Unfortunately we have to fund our
own recording, while trying to feed our families.
i'll admit to being a little embarrassed that even though i first discovered punk whilst at school in the late 70's and had heard of many of the people you played with or who appeared on your records i don't remember hearing of the straps till a year or two ago. did i miss all the peel show appearances and music press write ups or were you unfairly overlooked despite pulling in some decent crowds and releasing some really good songs?
"life in Brixton, feel the heat,
Too much trouble on the street,
But I'm not gonna leave"
were you getting hassle for being punks back then? what was it like moving into the 80's as more and more punks were raiding their mum's make up bags and coming over all new romantic, did it feel as though punk was indeed just about dead or were you always confident you'd still be rocking so many years later?
Brixton was ok for punks . We always had a mutual respect for
rastafarians and I would say Vice versa. Most punks were squatters
there and we all seemed to mix ok. I can only recall one incident of race
hate against a punk girl I knew well, but these things happen in life
unfortunately. I would say most of the trouble we got was from the police
and the straight soul boy types . Yes the 80's arrived and some punks
who squatted just seemed to disappear, probably back home to mummy
and daddy in the suburbs. Then a few months later you would see them
with dresses on and wild makeup. I found it amusing . I remember I was
on the no 11 bus going to play a gig supporting the Damned at
Hammersmith Odeon and I got a tap on the shoulder from this person
with long blonde hair . I asked what I could do , she replied don't you
recognise me Jock? Im Shaggy, we squatted together in Newark house
Brixton.. I was baffled.. My name is now Geraldine lol... Each to their
own though. Shaggy was a good punk from Surrey, mad Crisis fan with
green hair. Good times.
why did the band split up?
why did the band split up... We never really split up ..I seem to remember
Jim Walker our drummer and Big John Werner our bassist having a
moment of handbags at dawn in the dressing room of the Lyceum when
we played with Stiv Bators and the Wanderers. It was a sunday night gig,
and the whole day was a bit of a disaster. When we were unloading our
equipment, Dave left Simon's Gibson les Paul guitar at the side of the
van, our roadie at the time was Dave Lloyd who later became the
guitarist of the UK subs , he went back out to get it and it was gone,
some fucker had stolen it . Simon as you can imagine was gutted, but
never blamed Dave or held it against him, it was a simple mistake, he
thought Dave our roadie had picked it up. So the dressing room was not
a happy place to be in. I fucked off to the bar as the 3 canadians were all
arguing, but they always were anyway, two brothers (and Jim was like a
third brother) and when they kicked off Dave and I would just let them get
on with it untill it blew over. The gig itself went great we played well and
got a great reception. But the next Day Jim announced his departure,
and John soon followed. Dave Simon and myself carried on with various
replacement drummers and bassists for a short while but it never was
the same. Pete Davies (ex uk subs) joined us to do the album. He knew
all the songs anyway as he had done some stand in shows with us
before. John Werner rejoined to play bass on the album called The
Straps. After the album release ,instead of touring it, we just drifted into
oblivion as we had no shows booked ,no agent or management at that
time.
you're back together, you're gigging with many of the bands that were round when you were first active. is the atmosphere between you all the same or is it just like a big party now, a case of this is all a bonus, let's have fun? unlike some of the
bands that have reformed, you've released a new album that is worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as your old stuff. are there any more releases in the pipeline?
We reformed, Dave and I, in 2005 with 3 new members and done some
London and Glasgow shows also rebellion punk festival in Blackpool a
few times,releasing a LtD addition cd called In Love with the new world
Order, we decided to call it a halt 2007 due to some health issues I was
experiencing. But Yeah we are back now with a bang. Me, Dave
Reeves, Pete Davies, Phil McDermott (former Eastend Baddo), Bill
Gaynor and Paul Rogers .. We released Brave new anger lst August on
Flicknife records and its getting some rave reviews, being hailed as a
new punk classic , which is nice. The album was written in the style of 77
punk, some have compared it to the Damned's Machinegun Ettiquette..
We are all just enjoying working together and I think for the first time in
my musician experience of being in a band there's no ego's no bullshit
we all just get on really well as mates, this in my opinion is the main
ingredient for a successful sound live and in the studio. If you get on well
as people, you will work well together . We are doing Rebellion fest in
August and will be performing Brave New Anger our latest release. I am
working on some new songs with Phil and hope to release another
album early next year.
Excellent Johnny nice interview mate
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